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Traditional American Diets: Interview with my grandma
Earlier I posted about my maternal grandmother, who is over 90. Some of you asked what my maternal grandmother eats. She's never eaten a particularly special diet, but I called her to clarify. Grandma A grew up during the Depression with many siblings in Eureka, Illinois. She moved to New York City and then during the war she moved to DC to work on something classified. Later she moved to Florida, then to Georgia, and now she lives in a retirement community back in Eureka. When we visited her as children she always had good snacks: shortbread, bowls of nuts, jello, yogurt, and fruit were some I remember. Here is a short interview with her, roughly transcribed:
What did you eat growing up?
Mostly fruits and vegetables from my father's garden, which mother also canned for the winter. We drank raw milk and cooked with butter. Mother liked to bake pies and make fudge. We ate the chickens we raised and sometimes had beef from the local butcher. Occasionally we had some canned salmon. Margarine was sold in ugly white blocks with yellow coloring you had to mix in. We tried it once and never bought it again.
Did you or any of your siblings have dental problems? Crooked teeth? Wisdom teeth removed?
No. But my brother Paul overate sweets. You could buy them in town and we also made some at home. He lost all his teeth when he was about 20 and was obese later in life. But no one else had that problem.
How do you think your diet differs from what modern children are fed?
People eat too many prepared foods and too much. They also don't walk enough. There is a trend towards making things easier and people don't cook from scratch anymore.
What did you feed my mother and her siblings?
Grandpa and I were "health nuts." We didn't buy prepared foods, read labels, and I cooked from scratch.
Did you cook much meat?
No, I never cooked much. I don't really like cooking meat. (my mom's reaction: "but, but, but, we did eat meat when I was growing up, mostly beef, cheaper cuts, almost never chicken, no bacon, had ham at Easter, but ate beef in stews, etc. several times a week...guess Grandma has forgotten cooking beef stew, lasagna, etc. And antipasto salad every night with dinner!").
Mom always complained that grandpa made them eat "weird stuff"?
No, most of our food was normal. Well, one thing they didn't like was seafood stew called bouillabaisse. Grandpa sometimes ate traditional Japanese food for breakfast, but nobody else wanted that. Grandpa was very thrifty and we sometimes ate canned fish too.
So what do you eat now?
Well, it's very strange. But growing up I had some constipation issues and when I got older I read that eating fruit in the morning would fix that, so I've eaten that ever since. Your mother has told me this is not a good breakfast. I enjoy whatever fruit is in season, as well as four prunes. I really like coffee and drink two cups a day with a splash of milk. I don't drink much milk, but I enjoy cottage cheese. Your mom was reading that paleo book (Robb Wolf's) and told me that dairy might cause weight gain though...I recently lost some weight by trimming portions and eating fewer sweets.
For lunch I often eat coffee yogurt, hardboiled eggs, and egg salad. When I enjoy a sandwich I use an English muffin or only one slice of bread. I like peanut butter mixed with a dash of Hellman's mayo and yogurt on an English muffin.
For dinner I have two vegetables. Tonight I had acorn squash and green beans. I also had a tomato salad and some cottage cheese.
Do you eat out?
Not much. When I moved back to Eureka my friends and I would eat pie at Busy Corner, but I stopped because I gained weight. I only eat pie when I am at someone's home now and they made it themselves.
Why are you so healthy?
Many people in my retirement commmunity have many health problems, but I don't. I never go to the doctor or have any aches or pains. Maybe they don't eat well or walk enough. I walk every day.
What are you favorite foods?
Fruits and vegetables. And ice cream, but I try not to eat that too much. Hey, I've been enjoying shelled peanuts a lot lately and your mom said legumes aren't that good for you, are those healthy?
Err, well I think true nuts are healthier, but if they work for you and you enjoy them, don't give them up!
Yes, but real nuts are quite expensive and I like shelling peanuts.
When I was a kid you used to keep real shelled nuts in a bowl on your coffee table...
Oh, well maybe I'll do that again!
Thanks for the interview grandma!
Overall my grandmother's diet is very interesting. It's very low in calories...could calorie restriction account for her succcess? Good upbringing? Good genes? I know if I ate that way I don't think my system would work very well (the coffee in particularly would make me INSANE), but maybe I got that from my dad. Both my sister and I had braces and wisdom teeth removed...
YES, other grandma, I will interview you if you want! I will also hopefully have an interview with a 99-year old relative soon.
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She's sound, sensible, and
She's sound, sensible, and doesn't worry too much! Sounds like she enjoys herself!
We could all learn a lot from
We could all learn a lot from your Grandma. Her little nuggets of wisdom are timeless. Thanks for the interesting interview.
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Great Interview Go granny
Great Interview
Go granny go!
I think that if everyone ate like their granny did they'd be a lot better off, in general.
"Don't ignore your mother's teaching"
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She probably has a good 14
She probably has a good 14 hours between dinner and breakfast which would be light intermittent fasting. The world's oldest man, Walter Breuning, "eats just two meals a day and has done so for the past 35 years" which would be intermittent fasting and calorie restriction.
More on our family: We had an
More on our family:
We had an antipasto salad ( with romaine or escarole) every night, usually had anchovies in it.( which I hated) Also we had canned soup with dinner each night, usually homemade. My mother ( Grandma Annette) has always been slightly heavy, though certainly never obese, still if you went by BMI, she would have been considered overweight. Our paternal grandmother introduced us to candy ( Reeses Cups, etc. ) which created a habit which took years for some of us to break....and Yes, our father was definitely a Health Nut! He ate miso and tahini in the 1960's, also ate seaweed for breakfast. He lived to be 81, would have lived much longer had he not been in a car accident.
More on the diet we ate
More on the diet we ate growing up. As the eldest child, I questioned our dad's focus on non-proceesed food. By the time I was a teen and babysitting, I would indulge in junk food when away from home (Twinkies, Hostess Cupcakes. At our house Betty Crocker and other mixes were forbidden. As for soda, he allowed that only at our birthday. Yes, we had meat, usually cheap cuts of beef, but cut into bits as part of a cassrole, or in spahetti sauce, also made by Mom (Grandma Annette) from scratch. We had seasonal fruit, but other than the antipasto, our veggies were canned, fresh veggies hard to get in NYC back then. Grandpa Bill also bought canned Jack Mackerel, and canned octopus in sauce when he found it on sale. I was thankful our cats liked the octopus, and to this day I abhor it. We also had cheese on hand, which Grandpa bought freshly made from an Italian import shop on Lower East Side- also olives from the same area. As for bread, we only had that for our school sandwiches. Our mom also made oatmeal cookies from scratch and peanut butter/honey raisin nouget Nuts in shells were put out in autumn, along w. a nut cracker.
Everyone but me ate chocolate as a treat at Chistmas time. I was allergic, to that as I am to to tree nuts.
I almost forgot our healthy milk- it was powdered Skim milk, used due to cheapness, and I guess it was low fat. I hated it, don't recall what my sister and brother thought of it. I think Nanny (dad's mother) would sneak in Nesquick to disguise the taste! My dad got many of his ideas from the 1950's pioneering food writer Adele Davis.
yay for adele davis (student
yay for adele davis (student of clara davis who studied children's diets and found that when offered only real foods kids chose the perfect amount and types of foods that they needed)! you're fortunate your parents knew of her advice, id say. some of it might now be a bit outdated (in her books she suggests corn oil as a supplement?!) but mostly she recomended fresh, whole foods with plenty of real fats and vegetables and fish.
I haven't heard the name
I haven't heard the name Adele Davis for years. I followed her diet when I was pregnant with my first born. I also followed her advice about letting kids choose their own diet. I'd pick up my son at birthday parties and the moms would say, "He only wanted the salad and burger and didn't want cake!" They were so surprised.
Your grandma sounds (and
Your grandma sounds (and looks) fabulous! Thanks for the great interview.
I think there's a lot to what
I think there's a lot to what Michael Pollan says about don't eat anything whose label you can't read, or that your grandmother wouldn't recognize. But I think there are also some people with good genes, people who can withstand a lot of dietary assaults on the body. Who knows.
Hey, Great interview! One
Hey,
Great interview!
One thing that is striking to me is how easy going she seems to be about food and how she seems to be able to control calories without being neurotic about things.
Another thing is her statement about being a "health nut". I think that in a good sense (and this doesn't apply to everyone), being a "health nut" may mean to be somewhat constantly aware of the health aspects of one's foods and how much one eats of them. I think that being a "health nut" can make the difference across a lifetime in regard to how one eats, regardless of the exact composition of meals. It's an issue of moderation and deliberation (some folks would call it austerity). It's, for instance, about not using foods to self-medicate psychological problems, and to not eat whenever there is an opportunity.